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Bill, I much appreciate the considerable work you have done to help woodworkers better protect their health, but you have given me far too much. I don't have the time or patience to read through and understand all this. I have just converted over my two-car garage to a shop and just want four simple dust collection questions answered. - Lou
First, many of my family members and friends have all done woodworking for ever and nobody has ever gotten sick. Just how serious is this fine dust problem and is it worth investing the money to provide extra protection for my family and me?
I truly hate answering this question over and over again. Not only have I gone to considerable pain to cover it in more depth than most ever want to hear on my Medical Risks web pages, this question forces me to try and be objective when I really want to just kick some sense into woodworkers who don’t realize they are putting themselves and those close at serious risk. Please re-read the Risk section above.
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What are the minimum requirements I should look for in deciding on what dust collection I need?
Air engineers did considerable testing and shared over fifteen years of experience of what it takes to address the fine airborne dust problems. They found we must do the following.
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First, fix our tool ports and hoods so they do not spray the dust away before it can be collected. AAF, one of the better known suppliers of commercial dust collection equipment to facilities that must stay in compliance or can be shut down was kind enough to let me share their many sample tool hood upgrades on my ducting web pages. Those same pages also share various ways to upgrade from the smaller 4” collection ports provided on most machines using better quality laser welded Lindab or Nordfab flanges, or less expensive readily available HVAC flanges.
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We then must provide ample airflow at each machine for good fine dust collection. Air engineers also established minimum air flow requirements tables for each size and type of tool from careful testing and experience. Since our larger small shop tools are identical to smaller commercial tools we can use this same information. Most of the large commercial tables and all are near exact duplicates of each other. Each of these CFM requirements tables to meet OSHA standards show we must move about 800 CFM at our larger tools and dustier operations. That 800 CFM is not the advertising hype maximum airflow that is about double what a blower actually provides in real use. That 800 CFM is instead what we need to move after taking away the overhead resistance in your shop from your tools, ports, hoods, ducting, separator, filters, etc. Going through the same calculations and testing shows we need 1000 CFM to meet the higher recommended medical air quality standards already adopted in Europe.
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We must upgrade our ducting to ensure moving ample air. Air engineers long ago established we should target our ducting systems to move air at 4000 FPM velocity to keep the ducts clear without putting on too big of a blower. We can use this 4000 FPM and the 800 CFM airflow requirement in the simple air formula AREA = CFM/FPM to calculate our ideal duct size. A little math shows we need almost exactly 6” ducting to move this much air at the right speed. Ducting size is very important because air at the pressures generated from our small blowers is more like water as it will barely compress at all. Use of the typical 4” and smaller ports or ducting that come with our tools and is available from most woodworking ships is similar to using a water hose that is too small or having a valve partially closed. Any obstruction will serious degrade our airflow. For instance a good 1 hp dust collector blower that can deliver a maximum 800 CFM through a 6” test pipe ends up only delivering about 550 CFM when pulling through a 5” diameter pipe, 350 CFM through a 4”, 200 CFM through a 3” and 90 CFM through a 2” pipe. If we want to move the needed 800 CFM to our larger tools to meet OSHA standards, we then either need blowers that can generate much more pressure or to use all at least 6” diameter pipe from our blowers to our tools. To meet the 1000 CFM needed to meet the higher air quality standards we should use all 7” diameter ducting. If we have a tool that requires two collection points, then we need to make sure that the area of each leg after we split our pipe added together stays very close to the same as our main ducts. A 6” pipe has roughly 28.25 square inches and a 7” pipe has an area of roughly 38.48”. My ducting pages go into far more detail.
Also discussed on those same ducting pages is the importance of ducting design. Sharp angles, rough ducting, obstructions, rough flex hose, bad transitions, tight curves, etc., all seriously reduce airflow. We can use a Static Calculator to determine the total overhead of our ducting and other dust collection components. It only takes a few minutes playing with a static calculator to realize almost all magazine articles and vendor advice on laying out our ducting is dead wrong. Most of this advice was foolishly assumed to be transportable from commercial shops. Ducting does not work that way in small shops because we use tiny blowers that do not generate anywhere near the same pressures or air volumes. Our blowers are sized to barely overcome the resistance of the longest ducting run in our shop coupled to the tool that needs the highest airflow and just collect from one tool running at a time. Using a downscaled version of a commercial ducting design ends up expecting to use a big enough blower to collect from all machines working at the same time. As a result the amount of air moved in a commercial design creates a tree like structure where right next to the blower we need a huge main to carry the airflow going to all the branches. With just one run working at once we instead need to maintain a very close to constant sized duct from the blower right to the machine or we end up with the airflow in the larger mains slowing too much. If that airflow slows too much, the mains build up dangerous ducting dust piles in the larger main pipes. Dust piles can cause ducting fires. When these piles break loose they can ruin our motor bearings, impellers and filters. Moreover, when they break loose they can create a potentially explosive dust to air mixtures. In small shops with a single point of collection we need to use nearly the same sized ducting throughout. Most end up needing at least 6” diameter mains and down drops whose area added together ends up matching the roughly 28.25 square inches of our 6” mains.
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Air engineers then tell us to either send the air outside or filter it. They always recommend sending the air outside and using radiant heaters to keep from having bad heat losses. They found that keeping the air inside and trying to filter it is a nightmare. First, filters need to comply with some standard and that standard ranges from wide open just blowing all the fine dust right through to filtering at 0.1-micron or better. Current cyclone makers would like us to believe that filtering to somewhere around 10-microns is ample. As discussed before, the medical experts would like us to provide at least 0.1-micron filtering as is now the European standard. I found it difficult and expensive to get 0.5-micron filters. Moreover, as the fineness of our filters increases, we have to either provide much better pre-separation or significantly more filter area.
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I fully expect to follow the footsteps of my father and grandfather starting my woodworking hobby modestly with a good set of hand tools then as I get more proficient adding a few stationary tools in the basement, and eventually building a dedicated shop. I suspect most go through a similar progression. How should I manage the fine dust during the growth of my hobby?
For new woodworkers I recommend starting woodworking as a fair weather activity where we work outside wearing a good certified NIOSH dual removable cartridge mask when making fine dust. I use a 3M half mask in my size from a local hardware store that stocks a range of filters allowing me to also use this mask when painting and spraying my garden. This lets us get going without a huge cost in tools or putting our health at risk. The basic tools will be useful around the home even if woodworking turns out to not be a long term hobby. I now personally do quite a bit of my work outside using a good hand held power saw, router, jig saw, drill, orbital sander, and oscillating spindle sander with a guide system instead of my large stationary power tools. I find I can do all just as well, with far less setup, and considerably more ease especially when working with large sheet goods. Festool probably makes the nicest of these type systems and other vendors offer a range of similar offerings. I personally use the Eureka Zone EZ-Smart guide system and table. This system is so versatile my daughter and I made her a nice desk in the fall of 2005 without doing any machining or sanding indoors.
Most work indoors and end up getting at least two dust collectors before upgrading to a cyclone system. If you have a garage attached to your home or worse, a basement workshop like yours, then I strongly recommend skipping this step and going straight to a good cyclone based system. I also recommend use of radiant heaters in your shop and blowing the dust away outside ensuring that you provide ample make up air to keep from drawing deadly carbon monoxide backward through your vents, stoves, and fired appliances.
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And finally, like most I am supporting a family, so have serious financial constraints on my woodworking expenditures. I also want to end up with good quality equipment that will last. How do I manage this dust safely without breaking the bank and will you recommend specific brands and models for each phase of this adventure?
If you will not work outside, I still suggest you buy or make a cyclone that you vent outside. The cost to build your own is about the same as a typical dust collector ample for your sized shop, and will save you having to go through the two or more dust collectors that most of us have to buy before waking up. I personally kept my Jet 1.5 hp dust collector because it is a well built unit and with my DC Cartridge Conversion works great for quick jobs where I don’t want to turn on the cyclone. At the same time, I know this unit pumps too much dust into the filter that I need to change that filter frequently to keep myself protected.
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Bill, I have a small 2-car garage sized shop with no ducting, what dust collector should I buy?
I don’t recommend buying any dust collector, but if you have to please ensure it moves enough air for good fine dust collection, that you use ducting to put that unit outside where the fine dust cannot blow back indoors, and that you use fine open filters that flow the most air to provide the best collection. Also, be aware that many vendors either lie or advertise exaggerated airflows. The best two 1.5 hp dust collectors are made by Jet and Delta, yet neither of these generates ample pressure to overcome the normal resistance to power the ducting in your two-car garage sized shop plus the resistance of your dust collector filter. Your shop needs one of the better quality 2 hp or larger dust collectors to provide ample airflow. One caution here, please don’t get sucked in by false advertising that offers 2 hp and larger dust collectors that plug into a standard 120V plug. Some vendors play games rating their motors based on starting amperage instead of working amperage so call 1.5 hp and smaller motors 2 hp to as much as 6.75 hp.
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Bill, you have me confused again. You say we need 800 CFM in one place as a minimum yet in other places recommend at least 1000 CFM at our larger tools and dustier woodworking operations. How much CFM do you recommend?
Air engineers have spent over fifteen years refining their tables that show the minimum airflow needed to provide the collection at different tools ample to meet OSHA air quality requirements. Since most large hobbyist tools are identical to smaller commercial tools, we can use these same tables. CFM requirements tables for our tools to meet the medical air quality requirements already in use in Europe are not yet available, but the testing shows we either need tools built from the ground up to totally contain the dust as it is made or that we need about 1000 CFM at most larger hobbyist tools and dustier operations. In general, if you add about 25% to the existing CFM requirements tables you will get fairly good CFM numbers to meet the higher standards.
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What cyclone do you recommend?
In six years of testing I never saw a single small shop cyclone other than the WoodSucker II and the Clear Vue Cyclone using my design that provides good enough separation to be used indoors with filters. Although there is again considerable advertising hype where vendors test their cyclones against heavy chips and make outrageous separation claims, all other small shop cyclones are downscaled copies of the early outdoor commercial “chip collecting” cyclones. These 5 to 12.5 hp cyclones were engineered long before the current fine dust standards went into place. They do an excellent job of “chip collection” and use wide open filters engineered to pass all the fine dust into the outside air where it just blows away. This means they blow the 30-micron and smaller particles that make up almost all of airborne dust right through. With these units placed outdoors to meet fire and building safety codes, their only real problem is being built to only move the 350 to 450 CFM needed for good “chip collection”. To make one move that airflow for good fine dust collection they typically need just about twice the blower size. Instead, small shop vendors sell them with blowers smaller than half the original size where a 5 hp cyclone was only considered ample to collect from one or two machines at once. Worse, ignoring commercial fire and building codes to bring these indoors with either too open or undersized filters creates a nightmare of dangerously unhealthy fine dust exposures where many will follow my lead and eventually get ill because these units are dust pumps. In short, either build your cyclone from my plans, buy one from Clear Vue Cyclones, or buy one of the larger at least 3 hp cyclones and toss the filters and direct the air outside.
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You confused me with your blower fan tables. On one hand you recommend use of a 5 hp motor to power your cyclone, but the fan table says I need 7.5 hp and you say elsewhere that I can get by in my average sized shop with a 3 hp cyclone. How much motor do I really need for my cyclone?
How about I answer this question with a question, how big enough of a motor is needed to power my car? The answer is the same it depends upon the size of car and its use. A typical chip collection cyclone that is a copy of the original Delta outdoor cyclones that most vendors copy needs roughly a 5 hp motor. Even with all the changes suggested on my Cyclone Modifications web page that many vendors have copied often without giving credit for this work, the best resulting cyclone still shoves more than half the overall airborne dust into the filters. This quickly kills filters making these units in my opinion inappropriate for indoor use with filters, so I only recommend their use if you blow the air directly outside with no filter. Dropping the overhead resistance of your filter makes these units able to support collection from one large machine in a typical two car garage average sized shop with just barely a 3 hp motor. Unfortunately, because many small shop blowers are so sloppily built, they generate considerably less than commercial blower air flows, so many 3 hp small shop blowers will be undersized. More, cyclone vendors oversize impellers to compensate for the high resistance of our cyclones and ducting. Otherwise the impeller would just turn doing minimum work because it becomes air starved and cannot get the air it needs. Using a bigger impeller generates more pressure and lets us move more air. We carefully balance motor size, impeller size and resistance to provide maximum airflow without working our motors beyond their rated amperage. What may be a perfect balance for your longest ducting run and biggest tool can be a disaster for your motor when collecting from a close machine with minimal resistance. The motor can try to push more air than it has rated amps to move. This soon burns up motors. That is why I recommend use of a 5 hp motor on my cyclone design that works great with a high resistance long run. It really needs only a 4 hp motor to ensure motors don’t burn out, but because motors come in 3 and 5 hp, not 4 hp, I bumped up the impeller size from 14” to 15” in diameter to use that extra horsepower without putting the motors at risk. The result is higher pressure and the increased airflow to ensure meeting the airflows needed for collecting the fine dust at the finer standards now being adopted.
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Perhaps the most popular dust collector available today is the very inexpensive Harbor Freight 2 hp dust collector. Can I use one of these sitting outside my shop for good fine dust collection? Can I later use this same motor and blower to power a cyclone?
When that dust collector first came out I tested it thoroughly, did a long write-up on it that was shared out on a number of Internet sites, and then upgraded those write ups a number of times as this unit evolved. It started as a piece of junk with innumerable initial failures, but Harbor Freight made good on the units that failed and fixed the many problems. That still leaves this as a real roughly 1.6 hp dust collector that moves about the same airflow as many of the 1.5 hp units. I found it marginally lacking in total airflow for good fine dust collection as a dust collector and severely lacking in power to meet the much higher demands of a cyclone. Doing a fine filter upgrade as recommended on my DC Cartridge Conversion page raises the airflow amply for it to be a good unit to use outside a small to medium sized shop.
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Bill, you have me really confused and seeing things. I read over both the American Woodworker and Wood Magazine cyclone reviews and just about every cyclone they tested goes well over the 800 CFM that you require. They also generate far more pressure with a 2 hp motor than you say is needed for a 2-car garage sized shop with ducting. They clearly label the ducting overhead on one of the charts. Do you agree they move enough airflow, and if not why not?
This is one of those questions that does not make my day. If you look at a good fan table it will tell you how many horsepower it takes to move a given airflow at a given level of pressure. Without going through the steps figure 2.3" resistance at the tool, another at least 3.5” for a good cyclone, 0.5” more for big fine filter, then another at least 1.6” resistance for the ducting in a small shop for a total of at least 8” for an average 2-car garage sized shop. After testing untold many small shop blowers, I still have to find my first that actually provides more airflow than the commercial blowers. Most provide considerably less. Looking down a typical commercial blower fan table column for 8” of resistance it shows a 2 hp motor will not ever have enough hp to move our needed 800 CFM. Checking down the 7" resistance level column we see it will just barely move our 800 CFM at 7” of resistance. At 8” we can’t get the job done. Even with too little airflow for good fine dust collection, this 12” impeller with a 2 hp motor causes another more serious problem. Look at what happens when we hook this same cyclone up to a big tool right next to the cyclone with no or minimal ducting. What happens is the airflow climbs significantly as does the hp demand which goes to 2.5 hp. That will burn up a 2 hp motor pretty quickly.
We adjust for pressure by using bigger impellers and bigger motors because our direct drive motors are fixed speed. Many small shop vendors now advertise their cyclones with 14” impellers, a 7” inlet, and only 2 or 3 hp motors. Looking at the same fan table says a 14” impeller can move a whopping 1377 CFM airflow at 8” but to do so it is drawing a real 3.77 hp. Neither a 2 nor a 3 hp motor will stand that kind of load for long. If as before we look at the minimum load from collecting from a big tool right next to the cyclone with minimal or no ducting this same sized impeller draws an even bigger 1649 CFM at 4.58 hp. That load will soon burn up either a 2 or 3 hp motor, but until it happens oh do these look good. So then the next question is how to they make them work with 2 and 3 hp motors and not burn out the motors all the time. The answer is the same. These blowers are far less efficient than commercial blowers so the design problems, poor manufacturing, and use with restrictive ducting saves lots of motors. It also makes for some pretty dismally poor test results. We do not get more airflow for nothing.
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What makes your cyclone design a better choice than the many other offerings?
Four things cost, airflow, separation efficiency, and overall resistance. You can build one from my plans and pay me little to nothing, or buy one from Clear Vue Cyclones with a 5 hp top quality motor for less than most other vendors charge for their 3 hp units with lesser quality import motors. Most small shop cyclones are built to provide the typical "chip collection" airflows of about 350 CFM. The bigger 5 hp cyclones provide a real airflow of about 800 CFM needed at our larger tools to provide fine dust collection ample to meet OSHA air quality standards. My cyclone design is engineered to provide a real 1000 CFM at our larger tools to provide the airflow needed to meet the medical recommended air quality standards that are 50 times more strict than OSHA and already the European standard. The cyclone separation has a real separation efficiency instead of some fabricated efficiency made up in the back advertising rooms. In hard numbers my cyclone on standard test dust that matches the OSHA standard of 30% fine airborne dust my cyclone design provides an overall separation efficiency of over 99.7% separation efficiency by weight. This gives a real fine dust separation efficiency of about 98% versus a typical neutral vane equipped cyclone at less than 44%. Since this fine dust plugs and destroys expensive filters, this separation efficiency saves both our health and pocketbooks. I have people who make two to three hundred pounds of fine MDF dust a day using my cyclone for six months or more before they need to clean their filters. My prior "best" cyclone allowed less than twenty minutes of routing MDF before I had to stop and clean the filters. Finally, my cyclone design has far less resistance than most other units so the horsepower of your blower motor goes into separation efficiency instead of getting wasted overcoming cyclone overhead. The combination lets you provide good fine dust collection airflow and separation before filtering that are far beyond OSHA, ACGIH, and approaching medically recommended standards today instead of struggling with equipment that mostly will not meet the OSHA standards that most have already abandoned because these air quality levels leave too many getting ill.
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What do you have to say about the current top magazine rated cyclones and best selling cyclones? Do you recommend any of these?
I think the original Delta 5 hp chip collection cyclone that most small shop vendors copy to one degree or another is probably the top selling unit and if you count all the clones it has been the top selling for many years. I think this is a great cyclone if you put a big enough blower on it and direct the air outside exactly as the cyclone was designed. I am not at all in favor of any of the copies with tiny motors, blowers, and filters. They lack the airflow, separation needed to protect the filters, and ample filter fineness and sizing to make good fine dust collectors.
In terms of magazine ratings I have spent countless hours helping to educate magazine authors and editors to improve their testing protocol for cyclones and dust collectors. Future tests should look at the important things like separation efficiency, resistance, airflow at typical shop resistance levels, and provided filtering. Hopefully these many long discussions have weaned them away from this fallacy that “best” is the one that moves the most airflow claiming the highest CFM. I can change test pipes and make just about any unit I want appear to be a “maximum airflow” winner. Far more important is will each unit provide the airflow needed for “chip collection” or good fine dust collection with the size ducting at the resistance levels typical for each sized shop. Best is the unit that best protects our health with enough airflow to collect the fine dust as it is made, enough power and air pressure to overcome the resistance of our normal ducting, and then the ability to safely get rid of that dust.
When I go looking for a vendor I want one I can trust. I don't trust any of the top rated cyclone makers because there has been too many years of funny business with bogus health claims, exaggerated airflows, falsified separation efficiencies, and dangerous filtering claims. I do know a few of the better known vendors continue to be in a very open and ugly public fight on their web pages and Internet woodworking forums leaving me feeling their bottom line is different than my interest in helping to protect the health of woodworkers. I have had so many pieces of hate email against all of these small shop cyclone makers except Jet and Delta that I hope to never receive another. These concerns sadden me but are not much of a surprise. In spite of my prior negative experiences I still chose to do my best to help all improve their cyclones. Many have lifted my advice then claimed it as their own. Frankly, I have no need, want or desire to comment further. The only public recommendation I will make is their 3 hp cyclones work pretty well for average sized shops if you toss the filters and exhaust the air directly outside. I would not consider any of them appropriate to use with indoor filters.